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September 27[edit]

Talk page archives[edit]

I tried using OneClickArchiver on my talk page, but it won't work. I'm trying to figure it out but there must be something I'm missing. —VersaceSpace 🌃 02:16, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@VersaceSpace: It seems to be some sort of script problem. I see that you're using the version by Equazcion, which is unmaintained. Perhaps try switching to one of the versions listed at Wikipedia:One click archiving that are still maintained. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I dug a little deeper, and it seems like the RegExp in line 47 is the immediate problem. I am by no means an expert at RegExp, but it seems like the Regex expects the line with the count variable to be present as |count = number, allowing only for differential insofar as that the spaces I gave a red background can be ommited. Victor Schmidt (talk) 07:25, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good practice would be to make the spaces explicit, and variable in length: \s* Bazza (talk) 09:08, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

SPI with IPs[edit]

Where can I report sockpuppetry/meatpuppetry involving IPs? Is this still appropriate at SPI, given the sensitive nature of the issue, or should I email somebody? Duonaut (talk | contribs) 10:00, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Duonaut You can report sockpupperty with IP's at SPI, but checkusers will not connect IP's with accounts - any blocks will have to be based on behavioural evidence alone. (talk) 10:07, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good to know. Thanks! Duonaut (talk | contribs) 10:10, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

2022 Uganda Ebola outbreak[edit]

hi, I did this edit which moved text from one article to another,(and gave attribution) and I noticed I got this, what do I do??--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:35, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Ozzie10aaaa you asked Diannaa about this 20 minutes earlier, so I would suggest waiting for her response. She will not always be able to respond immediately as she will sometimes be busy, or asleep. Please do not ask the same question on different pages as it wastes volunteer time. TSventon (talk) 15:44, 27 September 2022 (UTC) ‎Reply[reply]
ok, thanks--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 15:47, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Wikidata problem[edit]

Hi--can any of you figure out why Lycée Lamartine links to the wrong article in the French wiki? When I click the French link, it goes to another lycee. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 20:10, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Fixed it. There were some interlanguage links being interpreted as pre-wikidata interwikis. Madeline (part of me) 20:24, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Should work now. Ruslik_Zero 20:28, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Indeed. For future reference, if you want to link inline to an article in another edition of Wikipedia, you need to start with a colon, so [[:fr:Lycée Jules-Ferry (Paris)|Lycée Jules-Ferry]] displays as Lycée Jules-Ferry, and links to the French article. But a better approach is to use the template {{Ill}}. So {{Ill|Lycée Jules-Ferry (Paris)|fr|lt=Lycée Jules-Ferry}} displays as Lycée Jules-Ferry because there actually is an article in English, but if there weren't it would link to the French article with a little "{fr}" by it to warn the reader that it was in a different language. ColinFine (talk) 20:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Thanks, all of you! Drmies (talk) 23:52, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Dark mode[edit]

Is there a dark mode to using wikippedia? Ebbedlila (talk) 22:16, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ebbedlila: Yes but actually no. There is a gadget that enables a "dark mode" on Wikipedia, however it's really just a color inverter. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 22:19, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
To try it out, click "preferences" at the top of the page, then "gadgets", then look under "appearance" - Arjayay (talk) 22:21, 27 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 28[edit]

Reference quoting[edit]

Hi There,

I want to add a reference to a publishing or an article or newspaper article in my new page. But I don't have the web reference to it however I have a pdf version of it with me. What needs to be done in these cases? Can I still use that as a reference in the article? Can I create a web item using the pdf I have and quote it? Vamsy Alapati (talk) 01:26, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Referencing a page does not generally involve quoting it. You would only need to provide enough information to look the source up in a library or archive, using {{cite news}} (we need the publication name, publication date, source title, source byline (i.e. who wrote it), and page(s) the source's on). —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 01:30, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
So I just have some softcopy of the item or scanned copy of an old publication in newspaper. What can I do to use that in the reference? Can I use the archive or such to create a web item and reference to that? If yes, Can you help me on how to do that? Vamsy Alapati (talk) 01:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I invite you to re-read what I just wrote. None of it involves what you're intending to do. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v a little blue Bori 01:52, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The source for a citation doesn't need to be currently available online as explained in WP:PUBLISHED as long as it's considered to be a reliable source, published and reasonably accessible and used in proper context. Being available online of course typically makes assessing source reliability and context much easier, but it's not required. So, if the soft copies you have are from an old newspaper that is considered to be a reliable source for which archived copies exist in some form (e.g. microfilm) that someone can go and check (even if they have to travel at their own expense to do so), then it can still possibly be cited as a source. If the soft copies that you possess are the only copies of the old paper in existence anywhere in the world and access is granted to only certain people determined by you (e.g. a private collection), then the source probably isn't OK for Wikipedia's purposes. In the case of old newspapers, there may be old archived versions found online via sites like and you may have to pay to access the source, but that's still OK per WP:PAYWALL as long as the source is considered reliable for Wikipedia's purposes. Quoting a source often can be helpful when dealing with offline sources because it can aid in establish the context in which the source is used; you don't need to quote the entire source, but rather only the sentence which directly relates to why the source is being used. You don't need to do this, but you should be ready to clarify the source if querried about it by another user. I wouldn't recommended uploading your copies of the source to some website and then linking to that because there could be copyright related matters involved per WP:CONVENIENCE that are separate from whether the source is reliable in the first place. There could also be concerns raised as to whether your version is a true version or has been modified in some way. Finally, content is not automatically OK to add to articles just because it can be supported by a citation to a reliable source as explained in WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Often its encyclopedic relevance and weight need to be separately assessed even when reliably sourced; an extraordinary claim or some kind may be much easier to discuss and sort out when it can be readily assessed by viewing online sources, and some editors may be opposed to using offline sources in such situations unless the source itself is really quite extraordinary. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:09, 28 September 2022 (UTC); [Note: Posted edited by Marchjuly to add the missing "not" referred to below. -- 13:54, 28 September 2022 (UTC)]Reply[reply]
I think there's a "not" missing in your sentence Finally, content is automatically OK to add to articles..., Marchjuly. ColinFine (talk) 11:05, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes, there was. Thank you for catching that ColinFine. My apologies for any confusion the missing "not" may have caused anyone. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:54, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Rosamund Pike[edit]

Rosamund Pike is originally born on January 27, 1979. (talk) 09:11, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Possibly. But we need a reliable source (see WP:V) before it can be added to the article. - X201 (talk) 09:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Was she also born at other times after that? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:55, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I did a quick search but didn't find anything that looked original that sourced the date. If the date is wrong in one place, it's sometimes lazily copied to other crowdsourced sites and takes on a life of its own. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 19:06, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
According to Rosamund Pike § Notes reference [1] that is not her actual birthday, just her 'internet birthday'??? -- Verbarson  talkedits 08:22, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
According to Birth, Death and Marriage records, her birth was registered in the first quarter of 1979. Which brings in the possibility of "Internet birthday" being a double bluff. - X201 (talk) 10:05, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
No. (talk) 09:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Leeds School of Medicine[edit]

Ref number 1 is all wrong - please fix if able. Thank you (talk) 11:16, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Done Sungodtemple (talk) 12:18, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

can i merge accounts[edit]

i have 3 accounts ( intercity225, 2006toyotacorrola and northamptontown) and i want to merege them so i'm not accused of sockpuppeting is this possible 2006toyotacorrola (talk) 11:19, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Unfortunately, merging accounts is not possible. Tropicalkitty (talk) 11:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
2006toyotacorrola To avoid accusations of sock puppetry, you may either abandon your other accounts and stick to your current one, or clearly identify the other accounts as yours on their user pages(and on your current user page identify the other accounts you have). 331dot (talk) 11:22, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
i've forgotten the passwords for the other two so i might do so 2006toyotacorrola (talk) 11:25, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Are sandbox pages public?[edit]

Hi, I'm using my sandbox page to write a draft for a wiki page I might upload later, I just wanted to know if sandbox pages were public? - Reeealllkeyyss — Preceding undated comment added 21:56, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Reeealllkeyyss, yes, they are, though they're obviously less visible than other areas of Wikipedia. They are invisible to search engines by default. (talk) 22:09, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Reeealllkeyyss There are no completely private areas on Wikipedia, though some areas are harder to find than others. If you don't want anyone to see what you write, don't put it on Wikipedia. 331dot (talk) 22:21, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Okay thank you! - Reeealllkeyyss — Preceding undated comment added 22:23, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Reply with a bullet point to things like AfDs with Discussion Tools[edit]

I'd like to be able to reply to an afd with the reply in discussion tools. Is there a way to do this? Aaron Liu (talk) 22:52, 28 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Aaron Liu: as far as i know, you cannot. lettherebedarklight, 晚安, おやすみ, ping me when replying 03:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
They're working on it. See T259865. It's a bit difficult from a technical perspective, unfortunately. Enterprisey (talk!) 05:36, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I had been contemplating filing a phab ticket for just this. Thanks Enterprisey for linking the phab ticket. CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {CX}) 06:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I have included a proposal at the phab ticket, feel free to comment on it if you wish to. CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {CX}) 23:16, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 29[edit]

James Middleton[edit]

Reference number 35 should have the quote written the correct way. Can you please do this? We cannot. Sorry and thanks (talk) 02:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi IP 175! Could you give us some more specifics? I see you added a citation with a quote. The quote looks like an accurate duplication of the source's text. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:19, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
The source (number 35) is the exact same as number 42 - maybe the quote is OK as you seem to suggest - but surely these two refs should be doubled up and we leave the quote in? (talk) 02:35, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Good point! You can see how I fixed it here, and the steps for doing so are listed at WP:REFNAME. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 02:42, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Article Draft declined[edit]

My first draft was declined for sounding too promotional and for not having enough supporting resources — Preceding unsigned comment added by Afomaa (talkcontribs) 08:08, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Correct. Do you have a question? You have been given sound advice on your talk page. Shantavira|feed me 09:59, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


I am searching for various quotes and want to know if they are copyright for use in school text books please. (talk) 09:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

If you mean that you want to put quotes or text from WP in school textbooks, see Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. And perhaps Wikipedia:General disclaimer. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 09:26, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In a more general sense, it is normally permissible to quote short extracts from any published source in any book provided that the original author and source is duly credited. How short is short? – "it depends", and publishing companies normally have one or more employees in a Legal Department who are able to navigate the customs, procedures and laws pertaining. In certain circumstances (say, quoting a politician in a book favourable to one of their opponents), even a short quote might be objected to by the quotee (or their estate), which will at the least cause some friction, and could result in legal action and further consequences.
Textbooks – which I used to edit professionally – are, because of their educational nature, usually allowed a little more leeway than, say, a novel, but I recall on several occasions contacting an author directly (one of them was the then-Astronomer Royal, Francis Graham-Smith) to obtain their formal permission for quoting in full a passage of two or three paragraphs. If you are writing a textbook, presumably you are already working with a publisher/editor: to be on the safe side, ask them – it's part of their job to advise on and deal with such things. {The poster formerly known as} (talk) 14:10, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

British Colonial Era records and consensuses[edit]

Are British Colonial Era records and books not to be mentioned as sources in Wikipedia articles if not supported by Modern sources?

How concencuses are made in Wikipedia community and how to know if a concencus is already made on a certain topic? MrHyperForEver (talk) 10:12, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For your first question, it depends. British colonial records might be reliable sources in certain contexts, but not in others. Probably yes for the boundaries between colonial administration entities. Maybe for general demographic data. Probably not for subtle statistics of caste self-identification. What is your use case?
Newer sources are generally preferred over older sources when reliable sources conflict, but an old scholarly paper is better than a new pop-magazine speculative article (related: Betteridge's law of headlines). TigraanClick here for my talk page ("private" contact) 12:55, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You mean if about a certain caste's origins or statistics, it is not be cited as a source. MrHyperForEver (talk) 15:56, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@MrHyperForEver, that is generally correct. A helpful essay is this one: Caste Sources. Also, you should be aware that South Asian social groups (including castes) is an area covered by a special set of rules called "sanctions" (see General sanctions and CASTE for more info) because they have proven to be quite controversial. (talk) 16:21, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Can Modern Pakistani and Indian government sources such as district reports and cencus reports be mentioned as a source. Is it allowed. MrHyperForEver (talk) 15:54, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@MrHyperForEver, government documents are primary sources (WP:PRIMARY) and often non-independent. They can be used, but they need to be used carefully and sparingly. Wikipedia is built around summarizing secondary sources (WP:SECONDARY) - use secondary sources as much as you can. (talk) 17:03, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

multiple user pages[edit]

how do i make multiple user pages 2006toyotacorrola (talk) 11:49, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You shouldn't be doing that. To make user subpages simply type the user subpage you want to create into the search bar, which will popup a link to create the page. Sungodtemple (talk) 12:28, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
i mean subpages 2006toyotacorrola (talk) 13:19, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Then see the comment I put above. Sungodtemple (talk) 13:30, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You can also put something like [[/This is a subpage]] on your user page and then follow the red link that it creates. Note the slash at the start. - X201 (talk) 13:33, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or you can manually write the page name in the url after (may be tricky for certain special characters). Use any method to navigate to the non-existing page. Then you should have an option to create it. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:34, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Or use this input box:

Hope this helps, Victor Schmidt (talk) 19:14, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Setting footnote in Infobox country in ISO 3166 field (for Kosovo)[edit]

The infobox country in the article Kosovo lists XK as ISO 3166 code and .xk as proposed internet TLD. In the latter case, there is a footnote set that XK is not yet an official ISO 3166 code. This footnote logically belongs to the ISO 3166 field. However, it is not set there, as the template automatically links the "XK" entry to ISO 3166-2:XK, which then is a redirect to XK (user assigned code). You can't set the footnote there without ruining this link. But I guess there is a way for those who know how to?! --KnightMove (talk) 12:48, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Please help me ( Urgent)[edit]

Hello, someone named Storchy has recommended deleting my Wiki Page National Scholarship Portal.

Can an admin check the page and tell me the reason for this action. How can I inprove the page ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NoworNever007 (talkcontribs) 12:59, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hello! The discussion about the reasoning to delete your page is here. You can participate in the discussion, and you can try to find what can you improve in the deletion discussion. ✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 13:02, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@NoworNever007: When you include numerous references using a commercial website, it’s considered spamming. Also, Wikipedia is not meant to be a directory WP:DIR to help students get scholarships. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 13:58, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Please see Wikipedia:So your article has been nominated for deletion. Afd's are lucky not as urgent, they usally last for 7 days (sometimes even longer) unless the article meets one of the (much stricter) speedy deletion citeria or its snowing realy hard. Victor Schmidt (talk) 14:04, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Edit page and article don't agree[edit]

Looking at the page for Roque Santana Fernandes and the edit page and the article page are not the same. discovered it when I did a search for the word ghats" and only came up with 1 instance. I have never seen this before and I am a bit baffled. Any thoughts? bobdog54 (talk) 22:14, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Bobdog54, the word only appears for me once in both modes. The article had some extensive editing today - did you view it in-between changes and therefore get different results? (talk) 22:36, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
None of the revisions since 26 September say "ghats" more than once. What are you seeing and is it in the article view or edit page? Please always be specific in reports. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:51, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Sorry, I thought I had put that it was only in the article edit. bobdog54 (talk) 00:56, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Bobdog54: What do you mean "only in the article edit"? Don't you se "ghats" in the article view? I do, once, in Roque Santana Fernandes#Early and personal life which says: "Fernandes and his father were also involved in pilgrimage work and escorted people that came from ghats, to show their affection and respect to the pilgrims in Velliapura". Your first post sounded like you saw it more than once somewhere. Is that the problem? SAY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS!!! Otherwise you waste our time and make it very difficult to help you. ALWAYS say what the problem is when you ask for help. "not the same" is extremely vague. We aren't mind readers and we may see something different from you for various reasons. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:15, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Searching refs[edit]

Noticed a seeming network of link spammers. They're hiding the links in refs. I'd like to make sure none have gone unnoticed, how can I search through reference links? Duonaut (talk | contribs) 23:18, 29 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Duonaut: Do you mean only refs? Special:LinkSearch shows all links. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:01, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Both instances I previously found were inside of a cite news template. Should have clarified. Duonaut (talk | contribs) 00:05, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Duonaut: But why does it matter whether they are in refs? I don't know any feature where it makes a difference to finding them. Unless you mean you can find the page but not locate the link in the wikitext. Refs are usually defined where they are used, not where they are displayed. Windows browsers can usually search a string on the current page with Ctrl+f. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:27, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@PrimeHunter: I was unsure whether search could find them as it returned nothing. But I assume it can search refs and thus there are none remaining based on what you're saying Duonaut (talk | contribs) 00:30, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

September 30[edit]

mlb postseason reference[edit]

Can you fix the error i made on mlb postseason reference please. (talk) 00:15, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I believe I've fixed what you were talking about. The baseball-reference one, right? Duonaut (talk | contribs) 00:34, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Report Someone[edit]

WP:NOTHERE ranting

A idiot on here is removing my added information on the soundtracks to Popeye and Pete's Dragon, when i have a reliable source link attached and i don't appreciate it one bit. If those links aren't reliable then Wikipedia needs to be shut down! This pisses me off and i'm about to go postal with foul language on this person. Chadergeist82 (talk) 03:10, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Chadergeist82: Sites with user generated content, such as at Discogs is not reliable source. See WP:RS for more information on that, and also WP:CIVIL. RudolfRed (talk) 03:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
That's stupid! Wikipedia is nuts! Youns can all stick it, cause i QUIT doing any edits! To me...Discogs is reliable and proof! It shows that what i said is real and right in your face, that it exists! SMDH! Also, quit putting dates as Day, Month and Year...that is RETARDED! It is Month, Day and Year...Learn it! SMDHAgain! I doubt i will log back in ever again, so your dumb replies will be a waste of all of your time and energy. Bye! Chadergeist82 (talk) 04:53, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Umm - isn’t Pete trying to flee someone who is threatening to punish him severely? WP:SNARK TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 03:33, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Link in infobox[edit]


Would it be possible to link "Flag of New Spain" in the infobox of Spanish West Florida to Cross of Burgundy since it's a red link? Thanks! (talk) 08:32, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hi, I've fixed the redlink to go to Flag of New Spain, from where a reader could go to Cross of Burgundy too. Thanks for reporting! Best, CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {CX}) 09:03, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]


Lupton family[edit]

2 problems - Would you please be able to fix ref number 114 on this page - I cannot. Please also add in the book's "ISBN" number which I could not get. Leave in the quote please. Also, ref number 116 should have the two pages (29 and 30) clearly listed in the correct way. Please fix this too if you have time. Sorry. Thanks. (talk) 12:06, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You can fix it yourself. Sungodtemple (talk) 14:36, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Fixed the first one ColinFine (talk) 15:50, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And the second one done.
Sungodtemple: old-timers here recognise this editor, who does valuable work on families and other topics associated with Leeds, but seems unable to recognise or fix formatting errors or spelling mistakes, even when they are pointed out; so we have stopped giving answers such as yours, and just fix them when we have the time. ColinFine (talk) 15:57, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

New editor creating a new article for an actor.[edit]

Hi Team,

I am a new editor and i want to create a wikipedia page for a South Indian actor who acted in a several Tamil movies. need guide lines and more information to create it. Kavya Gowri Kg (talk) 13:22, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I think Help:Your first article would be a good place to start! Welcome! DonIago (talk) 13:24, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Kavya Gowri Kg The most important guideline for creating any article (note: not page) is the General Notability Guidelines. That describes what you need to demonstrate to show that the topic of the article is notable by Wikipedia's definition. There is a subject-specific page for actors: WP:NACTOR, which should be viewed as a supplement to the GNG. If you are convinced this actor meets the notability requirements the next step is to gather sources that discuss the actor's life and career. You need to make sure the sources are:
  1. Reliable by Wikipedia's definition. This page has a color-coded list of sources by generally-accepted reliability. Here (about half way down that page) is a guide to sources specifically about Indian cinema. Here are some evaluations of the reliability of sources grouped by country.
  2. independant of the topic of article. So, you would want to avoid the actor's webpage, the studio's publicity materials, press releases, etc. Also, oddly, interviews with the actor are frowned upon because they are not independent.
  3. Significant coverage - in other words, you want sources that are about him, and that go into some depth about his life or career. Not sources that are about the movies he was in that just mention him in passing, but sources that are really about HIM.
Once you have at least 3 such sources, you are ready to begin drafting your article. Your first article is a good place for pointers on how to do that. Also, looking at some of the featured articles and good articles about Indian Cinema can help you know what an ideal article should look like.
Good luck! ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 13:35, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
  • Kavya Gowri Kg You said " i want to create a wikipedia page for a South Indian actor"; Wikipedia has articles, not pages. Those articles are not for the benefit of the subject in any way. There may be benefits but those are on the side and not our goal.
If you represent this actor, the Terms of Use require that you make a formal disclosure, see WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 14:04, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In addition to the good advice that others have given you, I would suggest that trying to create a new article as a new editor is like picking a violin, never having had a lesson on it, and trying to give a public recital. It is likely to bring you frustration and disappointment, and may ending wasting your time and other people's. I strongly suggest putting that aside for a few months while you learn how Wikipedia works by making small improvements to existing articles - remembering that everything in Wikipedia should be traceable to a reliable published source. ColinFine (talk) 16:14, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Concensus not got due despite RfC[edit]

15 days ago, I opened an RfC to find a concensus which hasn't yet been got (and parts haven't been discussing for a while). What do I do next to get the concensus? Dr Salvus 19:00, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Just for context, is it this one? Madeline (part of me) 20:10, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Yes. Dr Salvus 20:49, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

(dead?) reference redirects to homepage[edit]

Reference 13 on Sagat Singh now redirects to the website's homepage. I ran WP:IABOT on it, and instead of marking it is dead, it added a link of the archive of the homepage which contains nothing relevant, which I think is a false positive. What should I do in the article now? CX Zoom[he/him] (let's talk • {CX}) 19:26, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Looks like it's because Internet Archive had never archived it before, so it made its best guess at archiving it's redirect to the home page (see [2]). No idea why the bot decided to use the archive link to the homepage, probably to avoid extra redirects.
I did a quick google search of the title in the that cite and found [3], which appears likely to be the identical page. I'd say if you concur, you should update the reference to use that URL (which does have a successful archive by IA). Skynxnex (talk) 21:51, 30 September 2022 (UTC)Reply[reply]